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Pat Brogan (b. 1930)

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Pat Brogan initially discusses his family’s homeplace at The Commons in Lusk, Co. Dublin. His father, Paddy Brogan, attended school in Lusk, and he and his sister Rosie, who married Jackie Kelly, were involved in the 1916 Rising. Pat recalls their conversations from his youth. Paddy Brogan was in receipt of the Old IRA pension of £123 per annum, having applied on the basis that he was an officer in the 5th Battalion. Pat explains that his mother did not qualify for that pension after her husband’s death in around 1967. Paddy Brogan had lived to see the 50th anniversary of the Rising in 1966. Pat talks about the attendance of Éamon de Valera at the Mass at the time and recounts some anecdotes about the day. The atmosphere of secrecy which prevailed about the telling of stories from the period of the Troubles is described. Old letters are examined, and Pat discusses the path which could have been followed at the time. The Battle of Ashbourne is remembered, as is the shooting at Rush. An anecdote relating to IRA man Paddy Doyle, who was nicknamed ‘Killarney’, is recounted. The old neighbours of the area are remembered, people such as Tom Seaver, Jack Hynes and Pat Cadell. Pat explains that none of the adults of his father’s generation would talk in public about their activities during the Rising. He remembers that some would cycle to Ashbourne for the commemoration each Easter. Thomas Ashe, who was a teacher at Corduff School in Lusk and was founder of the Black Raven Pipe Band, is recalled. Pat remarks that little is known about Miss Monks who was a teaching colleague of Ashe at the school. A letter written by Paddy Brogan to his wife Annie Thompson from Frongoch Camp is examined. On his release, Paddy returned home to work as a farm labourer and was later employed by the County Council. He and his wife had nine children and Pat explains that he is the middle child. When he finished school he became a bricklayer, because the option of continuing in education was non-existent at that time. His father’s application for the Old IRA pension is considered, as is the importance of the 1916 medals to the family. The work of Tom Seaver and Helen Kelly in researching their relatives’ history is discussed. Pat recounts an anecdote relating to his grandfather, Patsy Brogan, who rode one of Mr Rooney’s horses in the Farmer’s Race at Fairyhouse. Patsy worked for the Rooney family. Pat’s mother, Annie Thompson, came from the local area, and she and Paddy Brogan married in about 1922. Pat reiterates the fact that during his childhood the adults did not talk openly about times of revolution and the snippets that were overheard could not be relied upon for their veracity. He reads a letter written by his father in 1945. The hard times endured by the Brogan family due to lack of space and the absence of running water and electricity in their home are recalled.

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Pat Brogan initially discusses his family’s homeplace at The Commons in Lusk, Co. Dublin. His father, Paddy Brogan, attended school in Lusk, and he and his sister Rosie, who married Jackie Kelly, were involved in the 1916 Rising. Pat recalls their conversations from his youth. Paddy Brogan was in receipt of the Old IRA pension of £123 per annum, having applied on the basis that he was an officer in the 5th Battalion. Pat explains that his mother did not qualify for that pension after her husband’s death in around 1967. Paddy Brogan had lived to see the 50th anniversary of the Rising in 1966. Pat talks about the attendance of Éamon de Valera at the Mass at the time and recounts some anecdotes about the day. The atmosphere of secrecy which prevailed about the telling of stories from the period of the Troubles is described. Old letters are examined, and Pat discusses the path which could have been followed at the time. The Battle of Ashbourne is remembered, as is the shooting at Rush. An anecdote relating to IRA man Paddy Doyle, who was nicknamed ‘Killarney’, is recounted. The old neighbours of the area are remembered, people such as Tom Seaver, Jack Hynes and Pat Cadell. Pat explains that none of the adults of his father’s generation would talk in public about their activities during the Rising. He remembers that some would cycle to Ashbourne for the commemoration each Easter. Thomas Ashe, who was a teacher at Corduff School in Lusk and was founder of the Black Raven Pipe Band, is recalled. Pat remarks that little is known about Miss Monks who was a teaching colleague of Ashe at the school. A letter written by Paddy Brogan to his wife Annie Thompson from Frongoch Camp is examined. On his release, Paddy returned home to work as a farm labourer and was later employed by the County Council. He and his wife had nine children and Pat explains that he is the middle child. When he finished school he became a bricklayer, because the option of continuing in education was non-existent at that time. His father’s application for the Old IRA pension is considered, as is the importance of the 1916 medals to the family. The work of Tom Seaver and Helen Kelly in researching their relatives’ history is discussed. Pat recounts an anecdote relating to his grandfather, Patsy Brogan, who rode one of Mr Rooney’s horses in the Farmer’s Race at Fairyhouse. Patsy worked for the Rooney family. Pat’s mother, Annie Thompson, came from the local area, and she and Paddy Brogan married in about 1922. Pat reiterates the fact that during his childhood the adults did not talk openly about times of revolution and the snippets that were overheard could not be relied upon for their veracity. He reads a letter written by his father in 1945. The hard times endured by the Brogan family due to lack of space and the absence of running water and electricity in their home are recalled.

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Type:

Disk, MP3

Audio series:

The 1916 Rising Oral History Collections

Bitrate:

128 kbps

Download time limit:

48 hours

File size(s):

40.69 MB

Number of files:

6

Product ID:

CD191602-045

Subject:

Paddy Brogan (Interviewee’s father)

Recorded by:

Robert Woods

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