Jim’s wife Attracta began by relating memories of her father, Richard Norris, from the village of Lamogue. He was the manager of the old creamery in Kilkenny city and was involved in award winning butter making. Cheese making was also recalled. Jim’s vivid memories of the old shops, shopkeepers and the premises of the town created a picture of how Kilkenny’s trading was conducted in the past. He spoke at length about his own family’s tailoring business. Amazingly his ancestors were stonemasons who came to the city to be involved in the building of the church.