In the second part of the recording Paddy Donegan recalls his time as a trade union official, his background in the Labour movement, policy making, and his involvement with the unions, invariably gaining their support. This was of huge importance to him in decision making. He says that the greatest stumbling block during his tenure as chairman of the City of Dublin VEC was the failure to succeed with the Ballymun project. He worked with the City of Dublin VEC for 32 years, spending 18 years as Chairman. He was awarded two Honorary Doctorates after his retirement.